Schaublin 125-CNC retrofit.

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01 May 2022 12:43 #241798 by tommylight
Just watching it, took a break from wiring the second of the 3 CNC plasma's i am currently finishing.
Got some cheaper power supplies (i have no choice) so they are causing some issues with interference.
Oh joy ... :)
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02 May 2022 16:07 #241857 by andypugh
I felt slightly sick when I saw the gouge in the table. I imagine you felt the same, but worse?

I have been wondering about ways to repair it, Perhaps a cast-iron "mushroom" could be pressed in to a (new) smaller hole and then machined to suit the T-slot and grooves?

Though, at lower risk, googling about on the issue suggested JB Weld "SteelStick" as an answer.
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03 May 2022 09:41 #241900 by RotarySMP
I am not sure if I will repair it, but if I do it would be a cast iron plug epoxied in.
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08 May 2022 10:11 #242296 by RotarySMP
 
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15 May 2022 11:25 #243012 by RotarySMP
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15 May 2022 14:03 #243019 by tommylight
Watching it right now. :)
I do need a power chuck for my Mazak...
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15 May 2022 17:55 #243032 by RotarySMP
I hope you find an undamaged one. :/

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15 May 2022 18:29 #243035 by tommylight

I hope you find an undamaged one. :/

I did find a used one about two years back in Germany for 690 Euro so i told a friend to get it for me, he forgot! @#$!%@^&#
New it's 7900 Euro! Ouch!

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15 May 2022 20:01 #243049 by spumco
Replied by spumco on topic Schaublin 125-CNC retrofit.

I hope you find an undamaged one. :/
 


Thanks for the video.

Shame about the chuck master jaws being cracked.  However, I'm not sure that chuck was in a crash... Considering how tight the master jaws are in the body, there doesn't appear to have been a tool-to-part or jaw incident.  The jaws don't appear to be distorted or the slots 'wallowed' out or deformed.

Looks like the jaws are cracked in a way that suggests the force was along the radius of the chuck; that is, in the same direction as clamping or unclamping.  Specifically, the cracks appear to be at the corner of the jaw face where the bellcrank pushes the jaw during clamping.

There also might be a manufacturing defect at that corner.  Note the sharpish notch where the large main radius doesn't quite meet the other surface.  That notch isn't present on the other side of the jaw (surface used for retraction/unclamping).  Jaw #3 has the same geometry right where it's cracked.  It might be an intended geometry feature, but it doesn't look like it.  Looks more like the main bellcrank cross-slot was milled out, and then the face with the notch/crack was tweaked with a grinder to be a precise fit to the bellcrank.

With evidence of the chuck having a hard life, it's not beyond the pale that the drawtube closer air pressure was turned way up to overcome the lack of chuck lubrication in order to get decent holding force.

Now imagine that poor chuck, with a sharp(ish) notch at the corner of the two faces... with the air pressure turned up to 11... running interrupted cuts in a production shop for years.

Just thinking about it is fatiguing.

Maybe the manufacturer will warranty the defective chuck jaws and throw in some T-nuts as a gesture of goodwill?


PS - speaking of NDT/NDE... sharpie pens make a pretty good unofficial dye penetrant for fine cracks.  Clean the surface with ISO or acetone, then get a fat marker and saturate the suspect indication with marker ink - the more the better.  Wipe it off the surface before it dries and sprinkle/blow a fine dust (talc, cornstarch, etc.) over the indication and it'll draw the ink out.  More ink = deeper indication.  Beats paying $$$ for the good stuff.
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19 May 2022 13:05 #243339 by RotarySMP
I think that is probably a good diagnosis of what caused the crack initiation /  propagation. I contacted Gamet, with this unique business proposition, but they havent responded :)

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