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10 Oct 2024 09:03 - 10 Oct 2024 10:23 #311715
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Something like this?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007245832712...2c-a4a2-79fd969bd58f
or rather one that only uses ceramic capacitors?
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007245832712...2c-a4a2-79fd969bd58f
or rather one that only uses ceramic capacitors?
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02 Nov 2024 08:10 - 02 Nov 2024 08:13 #313644
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So it turned out the ohmic sensing was not so reliable.
while at 25 mm above it started to cut. (False ohmic on when torch is wet)
My machine is especially sensitive to that.
I use a hand torch on a steel mounting.
Distance from mounting to shield is about 3mm.
so I came up with this experiment.
I made a break out board.
with a voltage divider.
6 30k resistors in parallel so that is 5k ohm.
on the other side 5 5k Ohm resistors in parallel so that is 1k ohm
So I tested with a multimeter when torch is in contact with the negative of the power supply I get 5volt.
when I put a wet paper in between I get 4.2 volt. Looks like this helps to get a solid difference between wet contact and real metal to metal contact.
With so many resistors in parallel. I don’t think torch voltage will overload then.
is it safe to use this kind of voltage divider. On my Thad. I was wondering if it would be wise to add some diodes for safety. Since torch voltage is opposite polarity?
while at 25 mm above it started to cut. (False ohmic on when torch is wet)
My machine is especially sensitive to that.
I use a hand torch on a steel mounting.
Distance from mounting to shield is about 3mm.
so I came up with this experiment.
I made a break out board.
with a voltage divider.
6 30k resistors in parallel so that is 5k ohm.
on the other side 5 5k Ohm resistors in parallel so that is 1k ohm
So I tested with a multimeter when torch is in contact with the negative of the power supply I get 5volt.
when I put a wet paper in between I get 4.2 volt. Looks like this helps to get a solid difference between wet contact and real metal to metal contact.
With so many resistors in parallel. I don’t think torch voltage will overload then.
is it safe to use this kind of voltage divider. On my Thad. I was wondering if it would be wise to add some diodes for safety. Since torch voltage is opposite polarity?
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02 Nov 2024 12:12 #313655
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No need for all that, just add a resistor to THCAD input to raise the required current for triggering.
What voltage is ohmic using?
What voltage is ohmic using?
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02 Nov 2024 17:32 #313666
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5 volt Thad
24 volt power supply.
24 volt power supply.
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02 Nov 2024 17:51 #313668
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I would put at least two of those 5K resistors in parallel, in parallel with the input of THCAD.
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02 Nov 2024 18:04 #313670
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You mean across positive and negative of the Thad?
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02 Nov 2024 18:57 #313673
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Yes, across the THCAD input side.
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03 Nov 2024 11:34 #313708
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What resistor value would you use between positive of the isolated power supply and the positive input of the THCAD ?
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29 Nov 2024 07:15 #315515
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Ohmic sensing has been working reliably for the past few days. I would not want to be without it. Makes probing so much faster and more reliable.
So my fifth stepper motor driver arrived and I will soon take the plunge to add a rotational axis.
So I read linuxcnc can only handle 3 axis trajectory planning.
But I need a fourth axis to place the torch above the center of the pipe.
I guess this can be done during homing.
Should I make a new configuration with the rotation axis being the X axis. Change the current X axis to the A axis in order to move the torch to the center of the rotation table?
So my fifth stepper motor driver arrived and I will soon take the plunge to add a rotational axis.
So I read linuxcnc can only handle 3 axis trajectory planning.
But I need a fourth axis to place the torch above the center of the pipe.
I guess this can be done during homing.
Should I make a new configuration with the rotation axis being the X axis. Change the current X axis to the A axis in order to move the torch to the center of the rotation table?
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29 Nov 2024 10:35 - 29 Nov 2024 10:38 #315522
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Yes, that is the easiest (and probably the best) solution.
Edit:
Make configs for each tube diameter and set the scaling so they do a full rotation for each diameter.
Edit:
Make configs for each tube diameter and set the scaling so they do a full rotation for each diameter.
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