Retrofit cnc 3axis

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03 Oct 2022 08:59 #253326 by Aciera
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On the "output" connector you could connect the ground lead to the bottom leg of one of the transistors (those that are all connected to the pins 2+12.
You can probe the signal on the front or the back, whatever is easier for you.

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03 Oct 2022 09:10 #253327 by clayd_lopunk
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Incredible Aciera, I had drawn the pins of the flat idc40 seems to match your scheme. You are a devil of electronics !! xD

I am attaching it, and I will proceed to the tests with the card connected, first on the IDC 20 PIN.


So one end on one of the pins 2-11 of the transistors, and the other end on the upper pin of the transistors connected directly to the pin of the IDC 20 and I'm going to probe. First I check my ground and 5v on the pins you told me.

Great, thanks!!
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03 Oct 2022 09:35 - 03 Oct 2022 09:54 #253330 by Aciera
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Glad to hear you are making progress.
Just out of curiosity, is there actually a DB25pin connector on the other side of the yellow box in the attached image?
It seems there used to be one but I cannot see it on the other side of the board.

 

edit:
I wonder if that is the elusive DB25 connector from the schematics.

edit2:
Actually, looking at the schematics again I don't think it is.
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03 Oct 2022 11:11 #253334 by clayd_lopunk
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03 Oct 2022 11:12 #253335 by clayd_lopunk
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Yes, I'm happy too, thanks again guys, start having fun playing the little surgeon with my new DVM !! I am sending you a precise photo, the connector above is not there but the pins are there. Perhaps it was used as an interconnect instead of the new card with ISA attachments.
However, I must have confused with the diagrams, one corresponds to the previous model, but the DIR CK pins were described .. in mine, however, no, probably because the signals were managed by the processor card before they reached the cable.

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03 Oct 2022 22:02 #253388 by clayd_lopunk
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03 Oct 2022 22:23 #253390 by clayd_lopunk
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I took the tests. Finally the pins react as assumed. Pin 1-11 with cable disconnected gives me no result. Connecting the flat, I measured all the transistors, the two left groups seem to go to 12V fixed during the enabling of the axes. The groups on the right correspond to DIR STEP of "xyz" and I assume "w" which gives no variation in V. Also pins 2-11 are shared to groups of 4 transistors from what I have detected.
Where I put the H the value is active high and goes from 0 to 12V (although it gets to a slightly lower value lower)
For the central transistors, on the other hand, the value goes to zero if the jogging is negative on the axis and goes to 12v if the jogging is positive on the axis.
I have also drawn from the lights I still have to measure the inputs in VOLT, I am attaching a photo of the latter too. When I press the emergency stop all inputs are turned off. For the rest, I found almost all of the push-button panel, only the spindle potentiometer is missing. I have not found any traces of the latter, neither with the machine being worked, nor in manual control with active spindle. Neither on output devices.
Tomorrow I will measure the V values ​​of the inputs as well. How can I find the spindle and nebulizer? It appears that the input lights are not connected to them.

A big thanks

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03 Oct 2022 22:27 #253391 by clayd_lopunk
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04 Oct 2022 06:47 #253416 by Aciera
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How can I find the spindle and nebulizer?

Don't forget the 8 relay outputs on the 40pin connector. As for the spindle, you would have to follow the cables that connect to the potentiometer on the front panel.  My guess is that the potentiometer connects directly to the spindle drive or rather through the pcb that all the drives plug into.

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04 Oct 2022 06:50 - 04 Oct 2022 07:02 #253418 by Aciera
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There would still need to be a spindle enable somewhere. Was the machine able to run the spindle in forward and reverse direction?

edit: I would also expect an input for fault signals from the motor drives (not sure how to test that though).
Also it seems a bit odd to me to have 8 outputs to enable the drives maybe some of those pins are for the spindle. If you cannot find more information by testing with the meter you might have to pull the motor drives and the drives pcb from the case and post some pictures or follow the traces from the connectors on that board.
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