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08 Jul 2018 21:21 - 08 Jul 2018 21:25 #113841 by BrendaEM
If what I might have done so far will mean anything, then let me finish what I started. I Have to be done with this in a month or two, and I am leaning toward finishing in less than one.

Tommylight, are you not asking one contributor to circumvent another?
If I have an issue, it's not with the level of compliment paid, it is about common respect.

If people go around me, when my proposal is 7:11 done, it may send a message to others, that a LinuxCNC contributor should not ask for the opinions of others, should not be considerate of the needs of the users.
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08 Jul 2018 21:22 #113842 by tommylight

my bad, apologies to all!

No need for apologies, it was not intended to end the discussion, just to nudge it to the right direction.
I am sorry if it came through like that.

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08 Jul 2018 21:28 #113844 by tommylight

Tommylight, are you not asking one contributor to circumvent another?

NO!

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08 Jul 2018 21:43 - 08 Jul 2018 22:04 #113846 by BrendaEM
Thank you, Tommy.

My wish is to continue making the the few remaining menus, and submit my proposal to the LinuxCNC community, before forks from the my designs are counter proposed. It is also my wish to lead this design until then. There is a difference between a suggestion and a counter-proposal, and there will be plenty of time for those after I am done. When I am done, I won't even defend this design. In fact, I likely won't be able to work on it.

People comment on how the interface looks, well I've merged a lot of ideas. I've come up with a way of displaying a few controls. One of those has only been improved upon recently.

I feel that the strongest thing I bring here: is just taking the time to come up with an interface as a system, and that has taken time. In the end, the programmers will have to make changes. If I am successful, this will not be the last interface in this series, but I strongly feel that it would be to LinuxCNC's advantage to have a complete outline before writing or in this case programing the book.

I think that the most time-efficient way to do things: is to already know what to do, and if what I will propose what to do is not the right thing to do, then why not let me show you the pitfalls.
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09 Jul 2018 13:58 #113874 by andypugh

My guess is within the next few months of real use you will be desperately looking for a solution to your tool changing situation. this isn't to say an ATC, but looking for some way to make it faster and easier than having to get wrenches out.


This is probably true. I don't have an ATC on my mill, but I am still really glad to have the
drawbar that I made
. It significanlty lowers the bar to such things as popping the probe back in to make sure of something, or putting a milling cutter in to machine a counterbore by spiral cutting rather than putting something nearly the right size in the already-installed drill chuck.

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09 Jul 2018 14:11 #113876 by andypugh

What are all the extra tool-table dimensions for?


They define offsets in all the available G-code directions. They may not be be used very much, but take this example machine where there is a permanently-mounted probe behind the spindle position. The probe will need both a tool-length and also an X and Y offset (and a diameter) to be useful.
I am not sure that the ABC offsets see much use, but you can imagine that they might be needed if using a 5-axis tool coordinate system and a robot arm. Or the C offset could be used for back-boring where the tool needs to be "fiddled" out (so the actual angular relationship with the spindle is needed)
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09 Jul 2018 21:48 - 09 Jul 2018 21:51 #113895 by BrendaEM
Perhaps, when the drawings are done, there could be two sets of milling diagrams: one for automatic tool changers that reference what need to, and one that references the collet, or what-have-you for use in manual mills.

I am sure that it's just a newbe thought, I wondered if a user could use the extra variables in the table for something.

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Andy, nice power draw bar setup. Is the tool held in there by a spring, and the air just opens it
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09 Jul 2018 22:31 #113904 by andypugh

Andy, nice power draw bar setup. Is the tool held in there by a spring, and the air just opens it


Yes, a stack of Belleville washers in the usual way.
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09 Jul 2018 23:12 #113905 by BrendaEM
Oddly, I am familiar with them. There's a few in the fine axis, a few pages pack on this thread.
It's good to see people make something other than landmines from them.

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09 Jul 2018 23:23 - 10 Jul 2018 05:43 #113906 by BrendaEM
This is a progress report:
Most of the menus are laid out. There are machine controls for Torches and Mills, as well. There are overlay panels for Large Screen, Keyboard, and Large jog.

What's left to design: 2 menus and a few tweaks.
* Setting Menu: Next on the list for most user settings, such as increments, paths, and choosing a plugin. This menu will only be a rough guide as the programmer(s) will be able to include often-used settings here.
* Machine Menu, may have controls for HAL-related things, as Halscope and Halmeter.
* Plug-In, not much to do, this menu will only display whatever the plug-in will do with either 1/3 or 2/3 of the screen, not much to do.
* Help Menu, there not much to do as it will just display a help file.

Some tweaks:
* Remove PyCAM button. Too much will have to be done to Pycam for integration in this version, perhaps the next.
* Add copy/cut and paste buttons, and a few User buttons on MDI. There's room for them, might as well.
* Check Probe and Tool Menu.

Notes:
* For something like NCam, it could either 1/3 or 2/3 or, most of the screen--except the machine-specific controls on the right. The probe menu is also large, and the largest the design supports.

I've read a lot of your feedback, and am trying my best to do the best I can for LinuxCNC. Thank you to Lcvette for making the great looking lathe tool. Thank you for your patience, help, feedback, and support.

(For those with large monitors, the thumbnail image is in 4K. The interface itself was designed for 1920x1080 widescreen, and above.)


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