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07 Jan 2026 17:32 - 07 Jan 2026 17:32
Replied by PCW on topic El5101 possible overflow?

El5101 possible overflow?

Category: EtherCAT

There is a related thread here:

forum.linuxcnc.org/24-hal-components/581...oat-precision-issues

The conclusion is that there is not an issue.
  • NickH
  • NickH
07 Jan 2026 17:01 - 07 Jan 2026 22:29
Replied by NickH on topic Installing ethercat repositories

Installing ethercat repositories

Category: EtherCAT

Also having problems installing and building Ethercat Master. I have tried the first script at the top ofthe thread(editing Deb12 for Deb13) and the new updated script and still get SSL errors, listed below.
Linux headers are installed and latest for rt kernel.

SSL errors:
root@chewy:/home/nick/ethercat-master# make modules_install install
make -C "/usr/src/linux-headers-6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64" M="/home/nick/ethercat-master" INSTALL_MOD_DIR="ethercat" modules_install
make[1]: Entering directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64'
INSTALL /lib/modules/6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64/ethercat/examples/mini/ec_mini.ko
SIGN /lib/modules/6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64/ethercat/examples/mini/ec_mini.ko
At main.c:171:
- SSL error:FFFFFFFF80000002:system library::No such file or directory: ../crypto/bio/bss_file.c:67
- SSL error:10000080:BIO routines::no such file: ../crypto/bio/bss_file.c:75
sign-file: /usr/src/linux-headers-6.12.57+deb13-common-rt/output/signing_key.pem
XZ /lib/modules/6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64/ethercat/examples/mini/ec_mini.ko.xz
INSTALL /lib/modules/6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64/ethercat/master/ec_master.ko
SIGN /lib/modules/6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64/ethercat/master/ec_master.ko
At main.c:171:
- SSL error:FFFFFFFF80000002:system library::No such file or directory: ../crypto/bio/bss_file.c:67
- SSL error:10000080:BIO routines::no such file: ../crypto/bio/bss_file.c:75
sign-file: /usr/src/linux-headers-6.12.57+deb13-common-rt/output/signing_key.pem
XZ /lib/modules/6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64/ethercat/master/ec_master.ko.xz
INSTALL /lib/modules/6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64/ethercat/devices/ec_generic.ko
SIGN /lib/modules/6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64/ethercat/devices/ec_generic.ko
At main.c:171:
- SSL error:FFFFFFFF80000002:system library::No such file or directory: ../crypto/bio/bss_file.c:67
- SSL error:10000080:BIO routines::no such file: ../crypto/bio/bss_file.c:75
sign-file: /usr/src/linux-headers-6.12.57+deb13-common-rt/output/signing_key.pem
XZ /lib/modules/6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64/ethercat/devices/ec_generic.ko.xz
INSTALL /lib/modules/6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64/ethercat/devices/r8169/ec_r8169.ko
SIGN /lib/modules/6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64/ethercat/devices/r8169/ec_r8169.ko
At main.c:171:
- SSL error:FFFFFFFF80000002:system library::No such file or directory: ../crypto/bio/bss_file.c:67
- SSL error:10000080:BIO routines::no such file: ../crypto/bio/bss_file.c:75
sign-file: /usr/src/linux-headers-6.12.57+deb13-common-rt/output/signing_key.pem
XZ /lib/modules/6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64/ethercat/devices/r8169/ec_r8169.ko.xz
DEPMOD /lib/modules/6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64
Warning: modules_install: missing 'System.map' file. Skipping depmod.
make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-6.12.57+deb13-rt-amd64'
Making install in include
make[1]: Entering directory '/home/nick/ethercat-master/include'
make[2]: Entering directory '/home/nick/ethercat-master/include'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for 'install-exec-am'.
/usr/bin/mkdir -p '/usr/local/include'
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ecrt.h ectty.h '/usr/local/include'
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/nick/ethercat-master/include'
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/nick/ethercat-master/include'
Making install in script
make[1]: Entering directory '/home/nick/ethercat-master/script'
make[2]: Entering directory '/home/nick/ethercat-master/script'
/usr/bin/mkdir -p '/etc'
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ethercat.conf '/etc'
/usr/bin/mkdir -p '/usr/local/sbin'
/usr/bin/install -c ethercatctl '/usr/local/sbin'
/usr/bin/mkdir -p '/usr/local/share/bash-completion/completions'
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ethercat.bash_completion '/usr/local/share/bash-completion/completions'
/usr/bin/mkdir -p '/etc/init.d'
/usr/bin/install -c init.d/ethercat '/etc/init.d'
/usr/bin/mkdir -p '/etc/sysconfig'
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ethercat '/etc/sysconfig'
make install-data-hook

Can anyone help me put this right please?

##Fresh start, reinstalled## 
  • PCW
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07 Jan 2026 16:01
Replied by PCW on topic 7i92M + 7i76 add PWM+PktUART

7i92M + 7i76 add PWM+PktUART

Category: Driver Boards

Unfortunately the serial interface on the 7I76 is RS-422 only so not suitable for Modbus
which normally requires a 2 wire (RS-485) connection.

You could add a single chip RS-485 adapter to the second 7I92 connector though.

Perhaps using a SP491 with the proper RS-485 bias resistors
 
  • PCW
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07 Jan 2026 15:52
Replied by PCW on topic Servos drives directly start turning

Servos drives directly start turning

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

Encoder issue? Did you that  both encoders work?
Are they Scaled properly and in the correct direction?

Why does one joint have the scale reversed?

If the axis drifts when enabled, encoder feedback --> PID --> analog output  is not working

If the axis runs away when enabled you most likely have the feedback loop reversed

Unless both motors hold position when enable (and resist applied torque)
the feedback loop is not working and needs to be checked on part at a time
  • PCW
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07 Jan 2026 15:40

Bitfile for Mesa 7i96s + 7i85 (+Modbus (PKT-Pin))

Category: Driver Boards

If you are not sure of sserial port locations sure you could always:

sserial_port_0=00000000

Also on mesaflash you can show the daughtercard pinout with (for example):mesaflash --device Ethernet --addr 10.10.10 --dbnbame3 7i85 --readhmid
  • nick.smith
  • nick.smith
07 Jan 2026 15:39
  • TripleM
  • TripleM
07 Jan 2026 14:41

Bitfile for Mesa 7i96s + 7i85 (+Modbus (PKT-Pin))

Category: Driver Boards

The 7I84 is connected to 7I85 TB2 pins 10..16.

for test I have flashed the 7i96s + 7i85 firmware.

So I think this is the correct load line?!  Or have I misunderstood something?
loadrt hm2_eth board_ip="192.168.1.121" config="num_encoders=6 num_pwmgens=1 num_stepgens=9 sserial_port_0=x2xxxx"

Configuration Name: HOSTMOT2

General configuration information:

  BoardName : MESA7I96
  FPGA Size: 20 KGates
  FPGA Pins: 256
  Number of IO Ports: 3
  Width of one I/O port: 17
  Clock Low frequency: 100.0000 MHz
  Clock High frequency: 200.0000 MHz
  IDROM Type: 3
  Instance Stride 0: 4
  Instance Stride 1: 64
  Register Stride 0: 256
  Register Stride 1: 256

Modules in configuration:

  Module: DPLL
  There are 1 of DPLL in configuration
  Version: 0
  Registers: 7
  BaseAddress: 7000
  ClockFrequency: 100.000 MHz
  Register Stride: 256 bytes
  Instance Stride: 4 bytes

  Module: WatchDog
  There are 1 of WatchDog in configuration
  Version: 0
  Registers: 3
  BaseAddress: 0C00
  ClockFrequency: 100.000 MHz
  Register Stride: 256 bytes
  Instance Stride: 4 bytes

  Module: IOPort
  There are 3 of IOPort in configuration
  Version: 0
  Registers: 5
  BaseAddress: 1000
  ClockFrequency: 100.000 MHz
  Register Stride: 256 bytes
  Instance Stride: 4 bytes

  Module: OutM
  There are 1 of OutM in configuration
  Version: 0
  Registers: 1
  BaseAddress: B000
  ClockFrequency: 100.000 MHz
  Register Stride: 256 bytes
  Instance Stride: 4 bytes

  Module: PWM
  There are 1 of PWM in configuration
  Version: 0
  Registers: 5
  BaseAddress: 4100
  ClockFrequency: 200.000 MHz
  Register Stride: 256 bytes
  Instance Stride: 4 bytes

  Module: StepGen
  There are 9 of StepGen in configuration
  Version: 2
  Registers: 10
  BaseAddress: 2000
  ClockFrequency: 100.000 MHz
  Register Stride: 256 bytes
  Instance Stride: 4 bytes

  Module: MuxedQCount
  There are 6 of MuxedQCount in configuration
  Version: 4
  Registers: 5
  BaseAddress: 3600
  ClockFrequency: 100.000 MHz
  Register Stride: 256 bytes
  Instance Stride: 4 bytes

  Module: MuxedQCountSel
  There are 1 of MuxedQCountSel in configuration
  Version: 0
  Registers: 0
  BaseAddress: 0000
  ClockFrequency: 100.000 MHz
  Register Stride: 256 bytes
  Instance Stride: 4 bytes

  Module: SSerial
  There are 1 of SSerial in configuration
  Version: 0
  Registers: 6
  BaseAddress: 5B00
  ClockFrequency: 100.000 MHz
  Register Stride: 256 bytes
  Instance Stride: 64 bytes

  Module: SSR
  There are 1 of SSR in configuration
  Version: 0
  Registers: 2
  BaseAddress: 7D00
  ClockFrequency: 100.000 MHz
  Register Stride: 256 bytes
  Instance Stride: 4 bytes

  Module: InM
  There are 1 of InM in configuration
  Version: 0
  Registers: 5
  BaseAddress: 8500
  ClockFrequency: 100.000 MHz
  Register Stride: 256 bytes
  Instance Stride: 4 bytes

  Module: LED
  There are 1 of LED in configuration
  Version: 0
  Registers: 1
  BaseAddress: 0200
  ClockFrequency: 100.000 MHz
  Register Stride: 256 bytes
  Instance Stride: 4 bytes

Configuration pin-out:

IO Connections for TB3 -> 7I96_0
Pin#                  I/O   Pri. func    Sec. func        Chan     Sec. Pin func   Sec. Pin Dir

TB3-1                   0   IOPort       InM              0        Input0_EncA0    (In)
TB3-2                   1   IOPort       InM              0        Input1_EncB0    (In)
TB3-3                   2   IOPort       InM              0        Input2_EncA1    (In)
TB3-4                   3   IOPort       InM              0        Input3_EncB1    (In)
TB3-5                   4   IOPort       InM              0        Input4_EncA2    (In)
TB3-6                   5   IOPort       InM              0        Input5_EncB2    (In)
TB3-7                   6   IOPort       InM              0        Input6_EncA3    (In)
TB3-8                   7   IOPort       InM              0        Input7_EncB3    (In)
TB3-9                   8   IOPort       InM              0        Input8          (In)
TB3-10                  9   IOPort       InM              0        Input9          (In)
TB3-11                 10   IOPort       InM              0        Input10         (In)
TB3-13,14              11   IOPort       SSR              0        Out-00          (Out)
TB3-15,16              12   IOPort       SSR              0        Out-01          (Out)
TB3-17,18              13   IOPort       SSR              0        Out-02          (Out)
TB3-19,20              14   IOPort       SSR              0        Out-03          (Out)
TB3-21,22              15   IOPort       OutM             0        Output4         (Out)
TB3-23,24              16   IOPort       OutM             0        Output5         (Out)

IO Connections for TB1/TB2 -> 7I96_1
Pin#                  I/O   Pri. func    Sec. func        Chan     Sec. Pin func   Sec. Pin Dir

TB1-2,3                17   IOPort       StepGen          0        Step/Table1     (Out)
TB1-4,5                18   IOPort       StepGen          0        Dir/Table2      (Out)
TB1-8,9                19   IOPort       StepGen          1        Step/Table1     (Out)
TB1-10,11              20   IOPort       StepGen          1        Dir/Table2      (Out)
TB1-14,15              21   IOPort       StepGen          2        Step/Table1     (Out)
TB1-16,17              22   IOPort       StepGen          2        Dir/Table2      (Out)
TB1-20,21              23   IOPort       StepGen          3        Step/Table1     (Out)
TB1-22,23              24   IOPort       StepGen          3        Dir/Table2      (Out)
TB2-2,3                25   IOPort       StepGen          4        Step/Table1     (Out)
TB2-4,5                26   IOPort       StepGen          4        Dir/Table2      (Out)
TB2-7,8                27   IOPort       MuxedQCount      2        MuxQ-A          (In)
TB2-10,11              28   IOPort       MuxedQCount      2        MuxQ-B          (In)
TB2-13,14              29   IOPort       MuxedQCount      2        MuxQ-IDX        (In)
TB2-16,17              30   IOPort       SSerial          0        RXData0         (In)
TB2-18,19              31   IOPort       SSerial          0        TXData0         (Out)
Internal-TXEn          32   IOPort       SSerial          0        TXEn0           (Out)
Internal               33   IOPort       SSR              0        AC Ref          (Out)

IO Connections for P1 -> 7I96_2
Pin#                  I/O   Pri. func    Sec. func        Chan     Sec. Pin func   Sec. Pin Dir

P1-01/DB25-01          34   IOPort       SSerial          0        RXData5         (In)
P1-02/DB25-14          35   IOPort       SSerial          0        TXData5         (Out)
P1-03/DB25-02          36   IOPort       SSerial          0        RXData4         (In)
P1-04/DB25-15          37   IOPort       SSerial          0        TXData4         (Out)
P1-05/DB25-03          38   IOPort       SSerial          0        RXData3         (In)
P1-06/DB25-16          39   IOPort       SSerial          0        TXData3         (Out)
P1-07/DB25-04          40   IOPort       SSerial          0        RXData2         (In)
P1-08/DB25-17          41   IOPort       SSerial          0        TXData2         (Out)
P1-09/DB25-05          42   IOPort       SSerial          0        RXData1         (In)
P1-11/DB25-06          43   IOPort       SSerial          0        TXData1         (Out)
P1-13/DB25-07          44   IOPort       MuxedQCountSel   0        MuxSel0         (Out)
P1-15/DB25-08          45   IOPort       MuxedQCount      0        MuxQ-A          (In)
P1-17/DB25-09          46   IOPort       MuxedQCount      0        MuxQ-B          (In)
P1-19/DB25-10          47   IOPort       MuxedQCount      0        MuxQ-IDX        (In)
P1-21/DB25-11          48   IOPort       MuxedQCount      1        MuxQ-A          (In)
P1-23/DB25-12          49   IOPort       MuxedQCount      1        MuxQ-B          (In)
P1-25/DB25-13          50   IOPort       MuxedQCount      1        MuxQ-IDX        (In)

 
  • vibram
  • vibram
07 Jan 2026 14:27
El5101 possible overflow? was created by vibram

El5101 possible overflow?

Category: EtherCAT

Hello 
I have a spindle encoder with a quadrature signal. 
It will be wired to a El5101 but I'm worried about a possible variable overflow as I have 2000 ppr and my spindle can go up to 3000rpm. 
I don't think I'm the first one in this situation. How I can handle it? 

Thank you for your help 
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07 Jan 2026 11:26
Replied by rodw on topic LinuxCNC S-Curve Accelerations

LinuxCNC S-Curve Accelerations

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

I really think this discussion of latency is irrelevant. I've had my doubts about 2 core CPU's being adequate for a few years but with careful tuning they work for some.

Either the latency is acceptable or it isn't on a specific PC. There is no hard and fast rule for what is acceptable.You all seem to be working with ethercat or Mesa devices so system latency is no longer relevant if the  system is correctly set up to minimize system processes that cause periodic latency spikes.

Network latency is a fairly new concept for Linuxcnc users and has only been an issue since the release of Debian Bullseye but that coincides with increased power saving technology and an insistence by kernel developers to use fully open source network drivers and not incorporate the Realtek DKMS drivers where full source is not available.

I really would like to see actual results discussed,  not theoretical dicussions about what might work and what might not. From kernel traces, I know there is a spare 800 ns on most systems before latency will be an issue. I am sure that is more than enough to support any additional processing.
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07 Jan 2026 10:50
Replied by unknown on topic RPi CM5 on Mesa Ethernet 7i95

RPi CM5 on Mesa Ethernet 7i95

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

Please use this image:
drive.google.com/file/d/1CoO_2y7iDTwtubG...VSw/view?usp=sharing

Usually a no carrier issue would be a cable issue between the RPi5 & Mesa board (the drivers have been loaded), has the Mesa board booted correctly ?

Bear in mind that the kernel used is directly from the Raspberry Pi repos, ie it is not a custom kernel other than being RT capable. The RPi kernel build instruction make no differentiation between any of the "5" series. The all use the same kernel. Neither is there special options related to ethernet for the CM5 in the config.txt file.

It may help if you can provide a link to the carrier board.

The best place for any issues relating to the current Trixie images is at the link below as I don't use the forum as often as I used to. There is no need to raise an issue as I'm aware of it.
github.com/ozzyrob/linuxcnc-rpi-2.9.7-image-issues
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07 Jan 2026 09:00 - 07 Jan 2026 09:06
Replied by grandixximo on topic LinuxCNC S-Curve Accelerations

LinuxCNC S-Curve Accelerations

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

We have our own proprietary protocol, but you can take a look at this, it's very similar to our own work:

linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/man/man1/linuxcncrsh.1.html

It's all good and well, but let's try to stay on topic, I'm more interested in tp0 vs tp1 issues, or other S-curve/blending related topics.
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07 Jan 2026 08:49
Replied by zmrdko on topic LinuxCNC S-Curve Accelerations

LinuxCNC S-Curve Accelerations

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

Hello grandixximo,

amazing work, I have cloned your repo and tested rip install on my i7 9700k.
I have just read in your last post, that you are using external UI, which is brilliant idea - to offload system running linuxcnc and use UI on another PC.
Can you share some details, if it's possible?

Thank you very much for you work, time and effort.
  • endian
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07 Jan 2026 08:24
Replied by endian on topic LinuxCNC S-Curve Accelerations

LinuxCNC S-Curve Accelerations

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

Yes Michel did amazing job ... I have been in touch with him few months ago and he knows about the situation of his scurve too .. We have testing it long time and talking about the possible solutions but he is down for now ... 

Can you share some details of hints to best hardware performace at your side please?

 
  • grandixximo
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07 Jan 2026 08:17 - 07 Jan 2026 08:30
Replied by grandixximo on topic LinuxCNC S-Curve Accelerations

LinuxCNC S-Curve Accelerations

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

Our S-Curve code has almost nothing to do with what Grotius did, we have been working on this long before Grotius started on it, we have read Grotius reference material, and followed Grotius progress, and took some inspiration for some refining of our original code we were testing, and we are very grateful for his work, but you cannot compare our S-Curve to Grotius's one.

The testing that you can report to us are to be done with the latest code from github, on my fork of linuxcnc
github.com/grandixximo/Linuxcnc-G-code
You have to provide pictures or written comparison with planner_type 1 and with planner_type 0
Then we will try to reproduce on our end, and see if we can fix whatever the issue might be.

Edit:
As far as hardware goes, we had been running intel G2030 CPUS for many years with mesa PCI LPT and realtek network with mesa_eth cards, but these systems are now very hard to come by, we work now with NUCS, and have used N100 and now N150 based SBC's with intel i225 (igc) for good ethercat  latency, we are probably around 20us latency (which I'm not super happy with), but mind that we do not run much of anything but mate-debian ethercat-master and linuxcnc, not even axis UI runs on our systems, we have our own remote UI.
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07 Jan 2026 08:13
Replied by endian on topic LinuxCNC S-Curve Accelerations

LinuxCNC S-Curve Accelerations

Category: General LinuxCNC Questions

I definitely agree with your opinion ... therefore I have testing at CoreDuo, i5 and i7 too ... and then just share my observation 

As I said before I am not expert of this topic but it is very interesting to help if there is a play to ...

can you share your hardware setup with us which is the best to avoid spiking please?

 
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