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27 Nov 2017 08:30 #102382 by BigDo
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Hi Fern,

this error can easily be reproduced if you click several times on a value in native cam.

Regards

Niko
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28 Nov 2017 02:06 #102420 by FernV
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Hi Vasi

The new version has a new class for the calculator dialog, units can be changed on the fly and only the subroutine for threading was not actually tested. I hope it solves a lot of problems.

I tested the new input dialog by clicking a value for about 3 minutes, some times as fast as I could and some times about normally as someone would work. It always worked as expected and closed.

There are also many other changes like some dialog that appear to give a cue to new users. When you do not want to see them again, check the box.

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Fern
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28 Nov 2017 07:24 #102424 by vmihalca
Thanks for the updates! I'll be off until next week but I can't wait to test it! :)

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28 Nov 2017 13:22 #102431 by BigDo
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Hi Fern,

i have tested it after sudo apt-get update and the bug is still there.
I am on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS RTAI.

Regards

Niko
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28 Nov 2017 15:01 - 28 Nov 2017 16:23 #102434 by FernV
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Update to latest 0.1.14a 0.1.14b

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12 Dec 2017 17:38 #103020 by FernV
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i have tested it after sudo apt-get update and the bug is still there.
I am on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS RTAI.


Is the problem still there with 0.1.14b ?

Fern

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12 Dec 2017 19:06 #103027 by vmihalca
Hi Fern,

I've had little time to test the 14b version, but from what I've tested, it did not reproduced.
Right now I'm facing some issues with internal threading. I was trying to do an internal thread, using the values from this table: mdmetric.com/tech/M-thead%20600.htm
I tried a metric 20 with 1mm pitch, and used the major diameter, and minor diameter from the table for the nut columns.
I did the touch off correctly, and running commands from MDI, was posiyioning the tool in the expected location.
When running from nativecam, the tip of the cutter was always about 1mm towards center than where it should have been.
Basically it was doing air cuts. I've set thread peak to -1, it says it needs to be negative for internal threads...
Other than that, I can't figure it out what I'm doing wrong.

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13 Dec 2017 00:00 #103050 by FernV
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I've had little time to test the 14b version, but from what I've tested, it did not reproduced.

I hope it is solved for good

...I'm facing some issues with internal threading. I was trying to do an internal thread, using the values from this table: mdmetric.com/tech/M-thead%20600.htm
I tried a metric 20 with 1mm pitch, and used the major diameter, and minor diameter from the table for the nut columns.
I did the touch off correctly, and running commands from MDI, was posiyioning the tool in the expected location.
When running from nativecam, the tip of the cutter was always about 1mm towards center than where it should have been.
Basically it was doing air cuts. I've set thread peak to -1, it says it needs to be negative for internal threads...
Other than that, I can't figure it out what I'm doing wrong.

This table is very interesting and lot of needed info is available.
However, the way I understand LinuxCNC, you can not use those major and minor diameter or you will end up with something like this. I guess your cutter is 60° and the point must go deep enough.



You have to use the points I show in this image.



Based on the chart for a 20X1mm the major diameter would be (20mm to 20.304mm) + ((1/8 height of the thread, H in the image, not H1 : 0.866 mm for a pitch of 1mm) * 2 for diameter). Automatic minor diameter will calculate the depth where the cutter will go.

A value of -1 mm for thread peak should be OK. All the parameters are the same as specified in lcnc documentation.

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Fern
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13 Dec 2017 09:49 - 13 Dec 2017 10:11 #103067 by BigDo
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i have tested it after sudo apt-get update and the bug is still there.
I am on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS RTAI.


Is the problem still there with 0.1.14b ?

Fern


is gone.

thank you

Niko
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13 Dec 2017 17:00 #103085 by Gene1934
gene83 says:

One gotcha that recently occurred here, was that installing NativeCAM kills CamPY, and the update it put in a day or so back, did it again, requiring the CamPY_setup, basically its installer, has to be done after each NativeCAM update.

I just wanted you to be aware there seems to be an unwanted interaction between CamPY, and NativeCAM.
I wasn't smart enough to see if that kills something for NativeCAM. Perhaps that is why I am not seeing a preview?, an LCNC backplot type view of its output? I have made no attempt to make it an LCNC "tab" utility because its window it bigger, and shrinking it to fit a backplot sized view would render it illegible to these old eyes.

One can call me a rank beginner at NativeCAM but it sure looks like it will be helpful, thank you.

CamPY has its own set of problems, seemingly a fragile application, but most of gladeVCP seems to share that attribute here on a wheezy machine. Its running a G0704 with 4 axises.

I will probably see if I can install NativeCAM of my 11x36 Sheldon, but the floor is somewhat bloodstained as its rather bleeding edge, the Sheldon is being run by an r-pi3b running Jessie on the r-pi.. My first experience with spi interfaces, but it is now working very well. Thats an armhf based card, but may be replaced by a rock64, which is arm64, and which is many times faster than the pi.
If I can get a working spi setup going on it

Thank you.
Gene83

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