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3 years 10 months ago #259746
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At 10m/div that looks really good.
Try faster.
Try faster.
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3 years 10 months ago #259749
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Thanks for the sanity check. It is difficult to work out when you stopped improving the tune, and are just chasing your tail.
I am pretty happy with X now. It sounds #right" all the way up to 3m/min. But then I put the micron clock on it, and looked at what happens with 10micron incremental steps. I can really see why industry when to closing the loop with linear scales.
The Z sounds more grumbly. Even when I soften up the drive, and dial back the P. I wonder if I have a mechanical issue in there somewhere?
I am pretty happy with X now. It sounds #right" all the way up to 3m/min. But then I put the micron clock on it, and looked at what happens with 10micron incremental steps. I can really see why industry when to closing the loop with linear scales.
The Z sounds more grumbly. Even when I soften up the drive, and dial back the P. I wonder if I have a mechanical issue in there somewhere?
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3 years 10 months ago #259751
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"have you calculated out the variables fpr the servo control and drive ??
max motor rpm = x velocity mm/sec"
Yes, I have both drives set for 150 RPM / V, so they will max out at 1500RPM.
X 1500 rpm -->1:2 --> 750 rpm screw --> 4mm pitch = 3m/min
Z 1500 rpm --> 1:3 --> 500 rpm screw--> 6mm pitch = 3m/min
My Ini is set for max rapid = 50mm/sec --> 3m/min
Those plots are with the LCNC PID. With the LCNC in open loop, the FError plot is useless, as it is just a divergent graph. In LCNC Open loop, all I could do was keep increasing the drive stiffness with auto tune values till is resonated, then back it off till stable.
max motor rpm = x velocity mm/sec"
Yes, I have both drives set for 150 RPM / V, so they will max out at 1500RPM.
X 1500 rpm -->1:2 --> 750 rpm screw --> 4mm pitch = 3m/min
Z 1500 rpm --> 1:3 --> 500 rpm screw--> 6mm pitch = 3m/min
My Ini is set for max rapid = 50mm/sec --> 3m/min
Those plots are with the LCNC PID. With the LCNC in open loop, the FError plot is useless, as it is just a divergent graph. In LCNC Open loop, all I could do was keep increasing the drive stiffness with auto tune values till is resonated, then back it off till stable.
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3 years 10 months ago #259758
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Looks like you got it covered, are you now getting good motion and tracking all the way up and down your velocity commands ? if so, mission accomplished sir !
Can you post a video of the noise ?
Can you post a video of the noise ?
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3 years 10 months ago #259830
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This is what it sounds like. With a night to sleep over it, it is not bad, it just sounds different.
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3 years 10 months ago #259831
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Sounds healthy on both, Z is heavier so more noise, more motor trying to cope with it, etc etc.
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