Traub Bosch cc100 retrofit
05 Jun 2015 11:24 #59455
by aventtini
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www.axorindustries.com/it/system/files/d...%20di%20Servizio.pdf this is the drive .
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05 Jun 2015 15:10 #59463
by aventtini
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05 Jun 2015 15:24 - 05 Jun 2015 15:25 #59464
by aventtini
Replied by aventtini on topic Traub Bosch cc100 retrofit
so its a axis movment only problem is this tacho . I will start to trace the wires . The last schematic is from the old drives that we dotn have . So i got this axor drives . The Spindle module has a pin caled M19 so we dont need to make any pid on the spindle
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05 Jun 2015 16:15 #59465
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Traub Bosch cc100 retrofit
I think I would be tempted to configure the carousel as a rotary axis. The reason for this is that it makes homing it easier as it can home as part of the rest of the homing cycle.
This is not strictly necessary if you prefer not to. The PID component that runs the servo can get its input from anywhere. (the same is true of stepgen)
How does the system find tool 1? Your pictures seem to indicate that there is a cam for every carousel position.
The linear motion could be an axis too, if you wanted. The microswitch could be used as a home switch.
This looks to be your encoder:
elcis.elcis-encoder.com/ENGLISH/catalogo/incr/pdf/E0046.pdf
Series 46 shaft 6mm 500 ppr 12V supply NPN open-collector. (and I can't see the rest)
I don't see any evidence of tachometers. The motors will tend to run away until you have a PID control loop set up, so perhaps that is what you are seeing.
This is not strictly necessary if you prefer not to. The PID component that runs the servo can get its input from anywhere. (the same is true of stepgen)
How does the system find tool 1? Your pictures seem to indicate that there is a cam for every carousel position.
The linear motion could be an axis too, if you wanted. The microswitch could be used as a home switch.
This looks to be your encoder:
elcis.elcis-encoder.com/ENGLISH/catalogo/incr/pdf/E0046.pdf
Series 46 shaft 6mm 500 ppr 12V supply NPN open-collector. (and I can't see the rest)
I don't see any evidence of tachometers. The motors will tend to run away until you have a PID control loop set up, so perhaps that is what you are seeing.
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05 Jun 2015 16:22 - 05 Jun 2015 16:23 #59466
by andypugh
Replied by andypugh on topic Traub Bosch cc100 retrofit
By the way... I am not sure how to wire Open-Collector NPN to the 7i77 encoder counter pins. I am hoping that PCW does.
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05 Jun 2015 16:44 #59467
by aventtini
Replied by aventtini on topic Traub Bosch cc100 retrofit
Tool one has 2 cams , we start the machine it homes tool changer and it stops to the cams . It will rotate in one direction so it will get the tools 1 - 12 . We index the rotary axis based on on the encoder and cams . The servo drives axor dont have encoder the have tacho thats my problem . We will make the pid for the toolchnager drives no problem . See the schematic of the axor drives .
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05 Jun 2015 17:07 #59468
by andypugh
The drives very rarely get connected to encoders.
The schematic dosn't mean much to me. Do you have a manual? Can the drives be configured for toque-mode rather than velocity-mode? (You can't do velocity-mode without tachos on the motors)
Replied by andypugh on topic Traub Bosch cc100 retrofit
The servo drives axor dont have encoder the have tacho thats my problem .
The drives very rarely get connected to encoders.
The schematic dosn't mean much to me. Do you have a manual? Can the drives be configured for toque-mode rather than velocity-mode? (You can't do velocity-mode without tachos on the motors)
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05 Jun 2015 17:21 #59469
by aventtini
Replied by aventtini on topic Traub Bosch cc100 retrofit
i just fond the manual in english www.bobry.ch/images/pdf/ax/Handbuch_Minispeed.pdf
But dont think it can be in toque
But dont think it can be in toque
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05 Jun 2015 17:34 #59470
by andypugh
Page 12. JP7.
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But dont think it can be in toque
Page 12. JP7.
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05 Jun 2015 18:02 #59471
by aventtini
Replied by aventtini on topic Traub Bosch cc100 retrofit
bingo
ok so i will start hooking up the wires and wask pcw how to wire the enconders to mesa
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