Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
22 Mar 2020 14:01 #161106
by CNCFred
Replied by CNCFred on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
funny even with thc disabled I can't cut due to error valid arc lost ...?? shouldn't I be able to cut with thc disabled?
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22 Mar 2020 15:59 #161116
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forum.linuxcnc.org/plasmac/38567-plasmac-torch-starting-problem
Same problem, but might not be the same cause. Anyway, you would have to provide us with some halscope traces to be able to help you.
Same problem, but might not be the same cause. Anyway, you would have to provide us with some halscope traces to be able to help you.
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22 Mar 2020 17:05 - 22 Mar 2020 18:30 #161122
by CNCFred
Replied by CNCFred on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
Sorry to hear about your dog!
I think I need to find ou why I have no hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.velocity
I will try to provide halscope results.
I think phil was asking for hal , seems I missed one
I think I need to find ou why I have no hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.velocity
I will try to provide halscope results.
I think phil was asking for hal , seems I missed one
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22 Mar 2020 21:09 - 22 Mar 2020 21:10 #161139
by rodw
Replied by rodw on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
Lets sort out your Arc voltage first. You calculated these correctly
calculated offset 3540.625l
calculated scale 0.012042148
But you have not entered them in Plasmac.
Have you made the change I said to correct the negative volts?
The problem here is Plasmac's synthesised arc OK. If the cut volts is only showing as 40 volts and you have a Arc OK low threshold set to 80 volts, the ArcOK signal will never come on so the cut will terminate.
So we need to get the Arc Voltage sorted out first. It does not really matter if the wrong voltage is calculated, but the ArcOK low voltage has to be about 50% of the calculated cut volts displayed on the screen.
calculated offset 3540.625l
calculated scale 0.012042148
But you have not entered them in Plasmac.
Have you made the change I said to correct the negative volts?
The problem here is Plasmac's synthesised arc OK. If the cut volts is only showing as 40 volts and you have a Arc OK low threshold set to 80 volts, the ArcOK signal will never come on so the cut will terminate.
So we need to get the Arc Voltage sorted out first. It does not really matter if the wrong voltage is calculated, but the ArcOK low voltage has to be about 50% of the calculated cut volts displayed on the screen.
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22 Mar 2020 23:06 #161150
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Replied by tommylight on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
I am sure that is not the problem, the settings most probably, but without more info from the OP i am refraining from concluding anything.The problem here is Plasmac's synthesised arc OK.
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22 Mar 2020 23:21 #161152
by rodw
From the original post Fred said the arc was 40 volts but in the screen dump he has the minimum arc OK setting is 80 volts so it will kick in as soon as the timeout expires.
But then he's changed the calibration settings so they are wrong so the first step is to get the Arc voltage and sign reporting correctly
Replied by rodw on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
I am sure that is not the problem, the settings most probably, but without more info from the OP i am refraining from concluding anything.The problem here is Plasmac's synthesised arc OK.
From the original post Fred said the arc was 40 volts but in the screen dump he has the minimum arc OK setting is 80 volts so it will kick in as soon as the timeout expires.
But then he's changed the calibration settings so they are wrong so the first step is to get the Arc voltage and sign reporting correctly
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23 Mar 2020 00:25 #161157
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Replied by tommylight on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
Missed that but noticed most setting are quite off the chart.
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23 Mar 2020 00:31 #161158
by phillc54
Replied by phillc54 on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
You say you don't haveIf that was the case you would not see an Arc Voltage in PlasmaC and you would get an error on startup as you have this correct line in plasmacthc_connections.halSo you need to do what Rod said and get the arc voltage correct then move ahead one step at a time and don't start cutting until you are at the top of stairs.
hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.velocitynet plasmac:arc-voltage-in hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.velocity => plasmac.arc-voltage-inPlease Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
23 Mar 2020 01:43 #161164
by rodw
Its in the file you attached here on this post I quote.
Replied by rodw on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
Sorry to hear about your dog!
I think I need to find ou why I have no hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.velocity
I will try to provide halscope results.
I think phil was asking for hal , seems I missed one
Its in the file you attached here on this post I quote.
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23 Mar 2020 09:03 #161197
by CNCFred
Replied by CNCFred on topic Valid Arc Lost, Thcad 300 config & Plasmac override
I reverted to the setup before I messed with the settings: configured plasmac new:
configs/plasmathc/plasmathc.hal: setp hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.scale -1
configs/plasmathc/plasmathc.hal: setp hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.filter 1
configs/plasmathc/plasmathc.hal: setp hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.counter-mode 1
bad news, thc voltage stays at -43V ...
I will check my hardware setup of thc...
please check also encoder2.txt
thank you for your time,...I will let you know ..
configs/plasmathc/plasmathc.hal: setp hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.scale -1
configs/plasmathc/plasmathc.hal: setp hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.filter 1
configs/plasmathc/plasmathc.hal: setp hm2_7i76e.0.encoder.00.counter-mode 1
bad news, thc voltage stays at -43V ...
I will check my hardware setup of thc...
please check also encoder2.txt
thank you for your time,...I will let you know ..
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