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16 Aug 2014 23:44 - 16 Aug 2014 23:47 #49930 by PCW
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OK I see Z was 0

Are you sure your analog outputs are connected to the proper channels?

X=1
Y=2
Z=0

Same question as before: Can you read hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01.position (with halmeter) when you physically move the X axis?

You should be able to move X when the machine is powered up but linuxcnc has not been set into the machine-on state
(as the drives should be disabled in this case)

Also in general its not an error to have weird axis/hardware numbering but it is odd and makes mistakes more likely

normally you would have:

X=0
Y=1
Z=2

spindle =5 (on 7I77 since only analog out 5 has an independent enable for spindle control)
Last edit: 16 Aug 2014 23:47 by PCW.

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16 Aug 2014 23:57 #49932 by mblaszkiewicz
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I have no movement in the hal meter at all. And x is 1, y is 2 and z is 0.

I powered the machine, removed e stop in linux, did not set machine ready.
I moved the table from one limit to the other with no change in the hal meter

the spindle its self is in 3, it is actually a large swervo (6k rpm) part of the brother system to sycronis the z axis to rpm for fast tapping speeds (2k rpm spindle speeds)

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17 Aug 2014 00:31 #49933 by PCW
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This indicates that the quadrature signals from the drives are not working or not wired correctly to the 7I77

You can check the quadrature wiring with a voltmeter at the 7I77, for example for the X axis, check at TB3
pins

9 A
10 /A

Measuring between these pins you should read somewhere between 3V and 5V
or -3V an -5V, and if you move the X axis around and stop a few times you should see both
polarities ( + and - )

If you dont see both polarities or you see lower voltages when the axis is not moving,
you have a wiring error or a problem with the source.

continuing to check the X axis B pair, check at TB3
pins

12 B
13 /B

And do the same tests shown above

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17 Aug 2014 01:08 #49935 by mblaszkiewicz
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No voltage what so ever when moving the x axis on tb3 pins 9-10 or pins 12-13

there was a small apx. .1 volt from pin 9-10 at all times.

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17 Aug 2014 01:18 #49937 by PCW
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You only measure the voltage when stopped (its expected to be close to 0 when moving)

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17 Aug 2014 01:34 #49938 by mblaszkiewicz
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nothing for voltage readings. moving or stationary. Just the .1 volts

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17 Aug 2014 01:56 - 17 Aug 2014 02:16 #49941 by PCW
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If the drives are powered and you don't get any quadrature output, this suggests a wiring error of some kind
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17 Aug 2014 01:59 - 17 Aug 2014 02:07 #49942 by mblaszkiewicz
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any idea on how to rewire it from the original schematics I sent over.

Also on z axis if I took readings right from the motor would it work due to the machine having revolvers
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17 Aug 2014 02:25 - 17 Aug 2014 02:33 #49943 by PCW
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I would read the signals directly from the drives CN8 pins 9 and 10 for example
(with the 7I77 encoder wiring unplugged), If you get no voltage across CN8 pins 9 and 10
it may be that the quadrature outputs are not line driver outputs (though the drive pictures suggest this)
or that the picture is for a different drive and you dont have the drive end connections right

Also not quite sure what you are saying about Z. I thought all axis had resolvers
(though the resolver connections always go directly to the drive where they are converted
to quadrature signals for the controller)
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17 Aug 2014 02:32 #49944 by mblaszkiewicz
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Wil do in about 20 min. Just took my wife to work. I will let you know what I get

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